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I hate auditing. Or I did.

My thinking was: I already have enough problems, why am I going looking for more?

Not very quality-minded, I know.

Here was my pattern over almost a decade of audits: Audit. Find nonconformances. Issue a corrective action. Assign it to me. Fix it by updating the procedure and training the employees. Then I go back to the normal level of chaos.

What changed? Well…

  1. I got into supplier audits,
  2. I started helping audit other facilities,
  3. I changed companies.

Really, I started learning more about audits.

What happened:

  • Improved quality culture (people started doing the right things)
  • Better rapport with employees (they’d bring issues to me)
  • I learned about the business (how to stamp, forge, paint, machine, and cast parts, which helps me ask better questions when doing corrective actions later)
  • Resolved persistent issues (read on for more on this one).

But how did I change this?

  1. Learning and growth
  2. Socratic auditing
  3. Conversational Skills

Learning

I attended several IATF 16949 courses (like 4 in 9 years). To audit well, you must understand the standard and the business completely. This became a key pillar of my team of auditors. We procedurally required auditors to attend continuing education every 3 years. Ideally going back to the intro to the standard course.

Socratic Auditing

I’m making up this title. It’s like the process approach, but instead of just following the process we follow the conversation (and the process).

Ask lots of questions, sometimes leading questions and sometimes inquisitive ones. (Almost) Always open-ended questions (lots of what’s and how’s).

Auditing is first and foremost an exercise in exploration. It’s about being curious and learning how and why things are done. Collect a ton of information and later determine if we meet the standard. (this is why thoroughly knowing the standard is important - it’ll save you time going back to find out more information).

Conversational Skills

An audit gets real weird when it’s a list of unrelated questions. Conversational skills are how you take your audits from check-the-box to value-adding activities. If your audits sound like interrogations, this is where you want to improve.

Mirroring - repeating the last phrase or word back to the auditee. It invites them to explain further. Example:

Auditee: I can’t stand making this part

Auditor: this part? (With an upward inflection in your voice)

Auditee: yes, it’s too big. Sales never bothered to check with us if we could make it (and they go on explaining, and you have an audit lead to follow up with. How does sales determine feasibility? ISO 9001 - 8.2.3.1)

Summarizing - paraphrasing an idea in your own words. Best used to confirm what you heard or what you understood. Especially helpful when there might be a nonconformance. Clearly stating, if I understand this correctly… or if I heard that right…

Tactical Silence - this is the simplest and hardest. Just close your mouth. After you ask a question or mirror something, just let the silence hang. Longer than you’re comfortable. Let the other person fill the void. You’ll learn more, the more they talk, so let them.

(all of these are from the book “Never Split the Difference” by Chris Voss - it’s an FBI negotiator’s take on how to negotiate better in life. Turns out these skills apply to almost everything quality does.)

Last Thoughts:

Pulling all the above skills takes practice and preparation. You have to know the requirements inside and out, so you can follow the conversation, ask appropriate questions, and steer the conversation toward the next requirement. It’s mental gymnastics at its finest.

Let's make the world a simpler place,

Mike

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Some audit stories ( if you’re still reading)

Resolving persistent grinding issues.

Auditing in a foundry, I came across a machine setting logbook where every value was at the max, measured 4x/shift for weeks (odds of this happening are basically 0). I asked and the employee lied and said that’s what he measured. I politely asked him to show me the measurement was significantly out of tolerance as expected.

What did I do? Well, this became an impromptu training session. He didn’t understand the machine and its implications. By letting the machine run out of tolerance, he made more work for the next guy grinding and made it almost impossible to detect scrap. After he saw no one got in trouble, the entire team would stop me as I walked by to tell me about some little thing that went wrong. They completely flipped around.

Persistent melting issues

At another client, we had consistent issues hitting the right metal chemistry. It would vary from the low end of the tolerance to the high end of the tolerance. Every 9 mo. I’d have to facilitate a customer deviation request because they were completely out of tolerance.

While auditing, we put away the canned questions and just started asking the employees what was going on. Nothing specific. The question was, “Tell me about the challenges here?” There were some obvious things (it’s hot), but then he started talking about his scale and how he couldn’t trust it. I pushed further and of the 3 scales he had, they all read differently. He was tired of telling his lead. His lead did nothing because they didn’t know what to do.

Once we knew about the issue, we called the scale company and had them take a look. 3 trips later we found there was an intermittent issue causing the scale calibration to fail. Fix the issue, update the PM, and no more chemistry issues.

Fixing a corporate audit

This client had a ridiculous checklist-style audit AND some of their corporate auditors followed it religiously. All quality managers were required to cross-audit their peers (it was a good idea). When cross-auditing, a corporate auditor must be present to calibrate the auditor. Fortunately, I was paired with a brilliant man, who understood the flaws in the checklist audit system.

I was pushed to leave the checklist behind and talk to people. Rather than focusing on the specific questions, I asked generically how their processes worked, how effective was maintenance, or what difficulties did they have. These lead their employees to explain things much differently than they had to previous auditors. We uncovered several new issues (for example nonconforming material control was not consistently put in the right place and process instructions weren’t consistently followed).

This company had coached their employees to answer specific questions, instead of building good processes. Asking very open-ended questions got the audit off the typical audit path and into the real way their processes were done.

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